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OTP meme

So, in an effort to post something that isn't Dempsey & Makepeace related, I decided to steal a meme from lost_spook. On the face of it, an odd choice, since it's shipping-related, and whatever the opposite of a romantic is, that's me. But whatever. It's a thinly-veiled excuse to womble on about television, so it's not that much of a stretch. Widely-ranging interests, apparently I doesn't has them. Well I do, but I handle them elsewhere.

So, the brief is to choose five OTPs before reading the questions, and then attempt to answer said questions. This was quite a struggle, as I had to choose five ships that I actually care something about. Having sweated over that for a bit, I surprised myself by actually caring quite a lot about the ones that I chose. Blimey. I'll be reading Mills & Boon next.

(No I won't. Not never ever ever). But anyway. Five ships, and none of them with pirates dangling from them:

01 Dayna/Tarrant (Blake's 7)
02 Hammond/Oliver (Top Gear)
03 Christian/Sean (Nip/Tuck)
04 Bill/Sookie (True Blood)
05 Donna/Josh (The West Wing)

Questions follow beneath the cut.

01. Do you remember the episode/scene/chapter that you first started shipping #5?

About ten minutes into episode one. Certainly early enough that I was baffled when they introduced Mandy right after, and I was apparently supposed to care about her and Josh. Ha. Yeah, right.

02. Have you ever read fanfiction about #2?

Um. Yes. I shall say no more about that.

03. Has a picture of #4 ever been your screen saver/profile picture/tumblr ID?


04. If #3 were to suddenly break up today, what would your reaction be?

They already did. The show's creator left, and horror ensued. Disappointment, more than anything else. Characters were ruined, and things didn't go well. The actors themselves have spoken out about their unhappiness with how it all ended, and that's pretty rare for Tellyland.

05. Why is #1 so important?

Because they're fun, and they're having fun. They rush through the galaxy, blowing stuff up and acting like Dempsey and Makepeace (except that they're both Dempsey). They make living under a dictatorship look inviting.

06. Is #4 a funny or serious ship?

Serious, I suppose. I get genuine pleasure out of seeing them together, and I never stopped missing their interaction after they split up. That was one of the reasons why True Blood lost its appeal for me after season three.

07. Out of all your ships listed, which has the most chemistry?

Well, #4 are married in real life. But I really couldn't say. I'm still not sure whether #1 are supposed to be a couple. Probably not considering the existence of Zeeona, but I shall always see them that way. #3 are what they are, and #5 always make me smile. Mind you, so do #2.

08. Of all the ships, which has the strongest bond?

Hammond dived into a crocodile-infested river to rescue Oliver. Christian would have (and did do) anything for Sean, but admittedly Sean wouldn't return the favour. Donna is willing to forgive a hell of a lot for Josh! I might argue the case for #1, though. Combat always strengthens bonds, and they have the whole of the galaxy against them. To say nothing of Avon.

09. How many times have you read/watched #2’s fandom?
Intentionally, once. Although I did do icons, admittedly.

10. Which ship lasted the longest?
If we go by the fact that it's demonstrably ongoing, #2. If I choose to assume that a ship from an axed programme still exists, #5.

11. How many times, if ever, has #5 broken up?

Once they became official, as far as the world knows, never. But before they were official, several times. Worst of all was when Donna left the White House altogether in season five.

12. If the world was suddenly thrust into a zombie apocalypse, which ship would make it out alive, #1 or #3?

#1! Unquestionably #1. Sean would be utterly useless in anything like that, and there's only so much that Christian can do to save him.

13. Did #4 ever have to hide their relationship for any reason?

Not as such. They did tend to seek out privacy though, given the blanket disapproval.

14. Is #5 still together?

Yes, definitely. I don't know if the Santos administration is still in the White House, but if not, Josh and Donna are probably working together to elect Sam Seaborn.

16. If all five ships were put into a couple's Hunger Games, which couple would win?

#1! Obviously Oliver would protect Hammond, but petrol would be an issue. We've already covered Sean's uselessness, and Christian has form for hurling himself into harm's way in an effort to protect him. They'd never last the trilogy. Poor Josh is not the outdoorsy type. Bill would do his damnedest for Sookie, but he'd be toast as soon as the sun came up. Dayna and Tarrant, on the other hand, would consider it good clean fun for the whole family.

(Seems there is no question 15.)

17. Has anyone ever tried to sabotage #5’s ship?

Yes. Josh. Repeatedly!

18. Which ship(s) would you defend to the death and beyond?

I nearly said all of them, but since #2 and #5 are actually canon, they don't feel quite so important in that way, somehow. Although technically #3 is canon too, but... that's complicated. I've had to defend #4 before, but only to True Blood fans, and I wouldn't try that again. True Blood fans are scarier than any monster they ever had on the show.

I think that makes it #1 by default. But if I'm truly honest, the answer is going to be none of them! It ain't that important, folks. Sorry.

19. Have you ever spent hours a day going through #3’s tumblr page?

No. I don't imagine that they have one. They do have an LJ community, but I think they predate Tumblr, and it's not a show that seems to have a current fandom.

20. If an evil witch descended from the sky and told you that you had to pick one of the five ships to break up forever, which would you sink?

That actually did happen, almost literally to #4. Except it wasn't me that she appeared to. Probably #3. I never thought that Sean was good enough for Christian. Christian would have died for Sean, but Sean never once had his back. Even without the weird OOCness following the change of showrunners, as a marriage it was asking for trouble. Still good while it lasted though.


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Jan. 25th, 2015 10:18 pm (UTC)
I am not from your country.

Oh well actually I am, but I don't understand any of this!
Jan. 26th, 2015 05:31 am (UTC)
Sorry! Terminology issues? OTP = One True Pairing, a somewhat overblown term for a romantic pairing (usually in a work of fiction) that you are particularly fond of. Ship = relationship, and is a contraction commonly used on the internet to, again, refer to a romantic pairing.
Jan. 28th, 2015 09:54 pm (UTC)
I knew that at one point, but I don't read fics any more. I used to write very innocent fanfic where nobody got up to anything!!!
Jan. 28th, 2015 10:41 pm (UTC)
Me too! We must be the last innocent people left on the internet! ;)
Jan. 28th, 2015 10:51 pm (UTC)
I used to write fics where Freddie Mercury was the King, I was the Queen and my cousin was Dusty Broom the cleaner!! All very innocent tho, and very silly.
Jan. 29th, 2015 05:04 am (UTC)
Needs more car chases. :p
Jan. 29th, 2015 11:38 am (UTC)
Jan. 26th, 2015 04:23 am (UTC)
Oh, I didn't know you shipped Donna/Josh! I share your views about being baffled by the arrival of Mandy. I hand't thought much of their future, but campaigning for Sam is certainly a probable one.
Jan. 26th, 2015 05:33 am (UTC)
I think everybody who watched the show shipped them to a certain extent. Romance just doesn't interest me generally, but they had an undeniable chemistry. Little wonder that Sorkin dropped Mandy so quickly, and decided to focus on them instead. I read recently that Donna was hired only for the pilot! She was never supposed to be in the rest of the series. I'm so glad they spotted her talent and potential and decided to keep her around.
Jan. 26th, 2015 06:12 pm (UTC)
I think everybody who watched the show shipped them to a certain extent. True enough. (Is the qualifier for slashers? :))

I didn't know that about Donna. Doing without her seems unthinkable. Just as The West Wing wouldn't have been so rich without Jed Bartlet, it would have been equally impoverished without the assistants, most especially Donna.

Jan. 26th, 2015 09:11 pm (UTC)
Here's where I read about Donna: http://www.empireonline.com/westwing/ It's a really good article.
Jan. 28th, 2015 04:05 am (UTC)
Thank you for the link!
Jan. 26th, 2015 05:38 am (UTC)
You know, some 50s/60s/70s M&B-type romances are quite interesting from both literary and historical angles and *mumble mumble mumble* *justifies bookshelves* Well, they are! e.g. Ian McEwan 'borrowed' - hem - from romantic novelist Lucilla Andrews for 'Atonement' and *mumbles* ... (bleeeargh, Ian MacEwan blek ick ak)... pretty sure I can come up with something else... given time...

Anyhoo. Bill would do his damnedest for Sookie, but he'd be toast as soon as the sun came up.
It would surely be a bit unfair to enter him for the contest in the first place.
Jan. 26th, 2015 05:49 am (UTC)
It would... but then from what I can tell (without having read the books) I'm not sure that "fair" is really the point.

I'm sure that there's literary merit in some of the Mills & Boonses. As much as anything, with all those authors, some are bound to be very good indeed. A bit like the Hardy Boy books/Three Investigators, etc. Loads of books all written by lots of different people over the years. Some are dire, some are really, genuinely good. It's just that Mills & Boon are about romance. And I generally require more exploding than that.
Jan. 26th, 2015 06:22 am (UTC)
It would spoil the romantic climax a tad. "Priscilla... my darling... just to see your eyes dewy in the starlight... my heart pounds with a fiery passion and -- no, hang on a minute, where's me stethoscope, that feels a bit off --" *chest erupts with 500lbs of explosives misplaced by the moustachio'd villain* ooops.
Jan. 26th, 2015 10:23 am (UTC)
Excellent! I'd read that.
Jan. 26th, 2015 12:40 pm (UTC)
I've avoided doing this meme due to being rather unshippy and ignorant of the Hunger Games (like Running Man but with arrows?)
Jan. 26th, 2015 12:55 pm (UTC)
I don't actually know, but probably yes? Photogenic teenagers shooting each other in forests. Terrible books (my niece is a fan, so I flicked through them, but they're first person and present tense, so yuck). But in actual fact the plot sounds vaguely promising. To the best of my knowledge (and I may well be wrong), teenagers are forced to fight to the death for the entertainment of the masses. Sort of "The Year Of The Sex Olympics" yet again, for people who aren't old enough to realise that reality TV had already been satirised to death long before they were born.

And boy did that last bit sound curmudgeonly.
Jan. 26th, 2015 01:31 pm (UTC)
That'll teach'em to be pretty(!) 'Sweeney' snouts in a forest that's what we want;p
Jan. 26th, 2015 01:37 pm (UTC)
I do quite like the idea of Tarrant and Dayna vs Hunger Games, I must admit! And the good thing is that so would they.
Jan. 26th, 2015 02:11 pm (UTC)
Hah, cool answers. :-)

I'm surprised Ian & Barbara didn't make it, as they were the only other couple I knew you liked at all. However, I doubt they'd have had as much fun with the questions as some of the others.

Donna/Josh, yes! What was Mandy even doing there? I especially don't know because I accidentally started with episode 12 instead of episode 1 and it took me about four episodes to realise. Mind, it avoided getting Sam's prostitute till I'd already decided I liked the show, and that storyline's put enough people off, so maybe it show be a recommended approach? ;-)
Jan. 26th, 2015 09:26 pm (UTC)
That's interesting. I had no idea that episode had been an issue for people. I always seem to be oblivious to the issuey stuff!

As to Ian and Barbara, I did consider them. I'm never entirely sure how I categorise their relationship, though.
Jan. 27th, 2015 05:39 am (UTC)
It's not the episode - it's the storyline, going on, and Sam being so patronising and things. Tends to put newbies right off Sam for good. Starting at ep 12, it's not so prominent and therefore I didn't hate Sam.
Jan. 27th, 2015 01:13 pm (UTC)
Oh, right. I see. They all have their smug moments, mind! I suppose he did come across as a bit judgmental in that storyline, although he did seem to mean well underneath it.
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