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The Saint, back again

Many people have read the Saint books by Leslie Charteris. Many have seen the 60s and 70s TV series, starring Roger Moore and Ian Ogilvy respectively (although they bore little relation to the books). Many have also seen the series of Hollywood "adaptations" starring George Sanders. Book, TV and/or movie, it's a story with a fair few fans. One thing that all the screen versions missed out, however, is the Saint's female associate, Patricia Holm. Patricia made her debut alongside the Saint, in 1928's The Saint Meets The Tiger, and battledat his side him for a good long while. She was tough, clever and resourceful, a good shot, and always handy for a quick getaway, a gun battle, or a skin-of-the-teeth escape. She also lived with the Saint, unmarried and unchaperoned, which was pretty daring for those days. Sadly Charteris eventually wrote her out, for reasons never fully explained, and she has remained ignored ever since. A new girl for every adventure is better, apparently, especially if she's hopeless and in need of rescue. There was no place for a dynamic female equal in the supposedly liberated 60s and 70s.

And the point of this is? The Saint is coming back, hopefully to British TV, although no deal has been made yet. You can see the trailer here:



For the first time, he's in the company of Patricia Holm, although it's hard to tell from the trailer just how much of a match for him she is. She's played by Eliza Dushku though, which is promising. Anyway, we'll see. Never seen Adam Rayner before, but hopefully he's up to the role; personally I'm still looking for somebody who's the equal of George Sanders. I may be looking for some time. Nevertheless, this looks like it should be entertaining. Shame about the modern setting, but unfortunately a period series proved impossible to sell to anybody. What kind of a world are we living in where hat-wearing heroes, dashing about the place in exciting vintage sports cars, are deemed unworthy? Sword-sticks and revolvers, people. Waistcoats and cars with running-boards. These are things that make television good. Still, there's no point moping over that now.

I think the short version of all that would be: The Saint is coming back! I hope it'll be good! It's got Patricia Holm in it!

I'm not very good with short versions. Hey ho.

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eandh99
Apr. 7th, 2013 10:46 pm (UTC)
well, I thought the trailer was really good, and I'm hopeful about this. I liked the Ian Ogilvy Saint better than the Roger Moore one - that really didn't age well. I borrowed the DVDs for the Roger Moore one out of happy memories, and made it through 1 episode.
swordznsorcery
Apr. 8th, 2013 02:23 pm (UTC)
I was never able to get along with the Moore Saint. He comes across as smug all the time. Ogilvy seems to have a harder edge, which helps, I think. But yes, this trailer is good. No news yet on when the show will air anywhere, though.
magentadawned
Apr. 8th, 2013 12:23 am (UTC)
Remember Randall & Hopkirk (Deceased)?

Then Reeves & Mortimer came along and destroyed it.
swordznsorcery
Apr. 8th, 2013 02:24 pm (UTC)
They did. They killed it horribly. Remakes can work, though. I really enjoyed the recent movie version of "The A-Team", for example. Hopefully this will be worth a go.
elenopa
Apr. 8th, 2013 07:19 am (UTC)
Ooh!!!

I'm a 'Return of the Saint' person, so don't know the original character at all. This looks good though.

Elisha Dushku is all grown up now. Perhaps the reason she is in now is because the world has caught up with the character in accepting strong women.

Nice to see Roger Moore and Ian Olgilvy in there. Wonder what part they will be playing? Will they have Simon Dutton I wonder?
swordznsorcery
Apr. 8th, 2013 02:28 pm (UTC)
I haven't heard anything about Simon Dutton being involved. His version of the Saint doesn't seem to be remembered so fondly, probably because not nearly as many people saw it. It's certainly possible that they'll include him somewhere though. No concrete news on who Moore and Ogilvy are playing, but their part in the trailer certainly looks intriguing.
lost_spook
Apr. 8th, 2013 09:16 am (UTC)
INteresting! Beyond once being bored silly by the most recent (I think) film, and one episode that happened to contain James Maxwell (completely ridiculous, but it delivered on what I wanted, that being nice and no historical Mr Maxwell), I don't know much about it, so I'm interested to learn about Patricia. It instantly makes the whole thing sound 100% more promising. So, fingers crossed it's okay, then?

:-)
swordznsorcery
Apr. 8th, 2013 02:34 pm (UTC)
The most recent film was the Val Kilmer one, I think. It was terrible! One of those times when they take an idea, remove everything that makes it work, and then wonder why it's not successful. Typical Hollywood!

Patricia was fabulous in the books, at least in part because the whole concept of her, and her partnership with the Saint, was so unusual for the era. I suppose that doesn't work as well in a modern series, but she should still be a good character.
lost_spook
Apr. 9th, 2013 12:39 pm (UTC)
Yep, that was the one. I was on a plane and after about ten minutes, decided that sleep was definitely preferable, a decision I've never regretted. ;-)

Well, Eliza Dushku is a good start. And it could be fun - it's not like the previous TV Saint was terribly serious. If it delivers on explosions and fun theft and Eliza getting to be awesome, could be worth a look.
liadtbunny
Apr. 8th, 2013 01:32 pm (UTC)
Paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat :))
And don't forget the sherry drinking!

Is Roger Moore the Saint's dad? Ha, ha. Looks good, though I love all the 1930's nightclubs in the books & digs at popular culture. I hope some of Simon's sidekicks/little Saints/servants turn up as well as Patricia, Rayt Marius & Fernack. And Claud of course. I don't understand why Pat has never escaped from the book, she does a fair amount of waiting for Simon in hideouts. Not too scary for men scared of women doing stuff I would have thought.

The same actress turns up in a different role in the Sanders' Saint & Falcon films; nearly Pat?
swordznsorcery
Apr. 8th, 2013 02:39 pm (UTC)
Re: Paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat :))
Sherry drinking, yes. :)

I don't know who Roger Moore is playing, but it does look as though he could be playing Saint Snr, doesn't it. Not sure how I feel about that, as usually I don't like it when backstories get foisted upon characters, but I suppose the important thing is that it be done well.

I think the main reason Pat is missing from the screen versions is the same reason Charteris got rid of her: the idea that the hero shouldn't be tied down to one woman, no matter how awesome. So she suffered the huge indignity of being replaced by that brainless oaf Hoppy Uniatz. Charteris, you're a fool. Although I appreciate that I am a little late in telling you that.
liadtbunny
Apr. 9th, 2013 10:14 am (UTC)
Re: Paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat :))
Don't worry when I get my TARDIS of complaint I'll pass on your message to Charteris;P
swordznsorcery
Apr. 9th, 2013 02:31 pm (UTC)
Re: Paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat :))
Thank you. Much appreciated. :)
sarren
Jun. 1st, 2013 05:44 pm (UTC)
OMG I am so excited for this!!! How did I not know about it? The promo says series, IMDB says TV movie, is it definitely going ahead?

The Saint books were my faves growing up. I LOVED Patricia, definitely the most kickass female character of the time. I guess setting her in this time removes the whole defying of conventions aspect but oh well.

I only ever saw Ogilvy's version when it was on TV, just remember being horrified by the idea of the Saint in jeans *G*.

I liked Roger Moore's version, got the dvds and imprinted my kid on them at an early age. Now she knows how to pick the sort of locks that don't actually exist anymore, so there's a useful lifeskill. Though I preferred him in The Persuaders.
swordznsorcery
Jun. 1st, 2013 09:06 pm (UTC)
As far as I know it's currently still just a pilot, and they're waiting to hear if there will be more. They're looking for networks that will air it.

You have taught your daughter well. One day she may be in an old building, and her old-fashioned lock picking skills will save the day. You never know. :)
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