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Children Of Earth: Day Three.

"I'm a fixed point in time and space," says Jack, as RTD finally remembers his own line of dialogue. Back in Doctor Who 3x11 "Utopia" (otherwise known as the episode before it all went wrong), we were told that Jack was forever - right before RTD decided to make a lousy joke and ruin my weekend. Yes, I am childish, no, I don't care, and yes, I probably should be talking about other things instead. Monsters! Slime! Abducted children! Evil civil servants! Deadly death and danger!

But no, the "fixed point in time and space" bit was definitely best. ;)

Here Jack and Ianto have a conversation about eternity. This is important for their relationship, and a nice character moment for both of them. To me, however, it basically just means official permission to stuff silly stories about Boe back where they came from. ;)

In other news, I am loving Jack's daughter. I've chosen to decide that she was named after Alice Guppy, for absolutely no reason whatsoever. At any rate, she's cool. I doubt we'll see a great deal more of her in future, as Jack obviously wants to keep her out of the firing line. It'd be nice to see her occasionally, though.


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Jul. 8th, 2009 08:22 pm (UTC)
Ditto to all of the above (seriously, when you're part of a family that tends towards vastly unpleasant bedridden terminal illnesses, you rather lose your sense of humour on some things! The FoB is the only DW monster to have ever given me nightmares and I grew up with the show).

Alice is SO named for Alice Guppy. ;) I was at the BFI preview and have been sitting on that bit of speculation for weeks now! I love the character - that apple didn't fall far from the tree! - but am trying to be good and wait until the end of the week before going overboard with the bunnies!

As for that Jack 'n' Ianto conversation... is it just me, or is it never a good sign when a character starts talking about their own old age? Might as well just paint a target on his forehead.... ;)
Jul. 9th, 2009 05:48 am (UTC)
Ouch. My sympathies. I have to say, I do find it rather endearing how John Barrowman loves the Boe thing so much, but I can't help thinking that he hasn't really thought through what it actually entails. It is pretty horrific.

As for Ianto, I thought that myself. I like to think that they'd spare us such a cliché, but there's just no way of knowing, is there! Gareth David Lloyd has said that he'd love to do a fourth season, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything.

PS: Your new bunnies sound interesting. ;)
Jul. 9th, 2009 06:52 am (UTC)
Watching someone go from liver cancer isn't pretty - I'm hoping it's skipped my generation (evidence to date suggests I have my father's bulletproof immune system *touches wood*) but let's just say that the one big thing I have in common with Jack is that we both had a really shitty time seeing in the Millennium....

So, yeah. JB can be as gleefully geeky as he likes, but I think RTD is less convinced. And for me - that isn't just Jack's potential future I'm seeing there!

I think we're going to lose someone and Ianto has so far been giving us leading lines and generally being a bit wet. And I can't help but notice that Lois is a hyper-efficient PA of the ideal-replacement variety. We'll see. As I can't write Ianto to save my life, I can't say that I'd mind all that much, tragic though it would be for the rest of the crew.

I like writing historical stuff with Jack, and Alice is just too much fun - I can see a whole lot of interesting things to do with her backstory.... :D Going to wait to see how things pan out there (but if you have any screengrabs of the bits involving her official/actual family background, I wouldn't mind a peek.... ;)).
Jul. 9th, 2009 10:10 am (UTC)
Well if it helps any, this is a recent quote from RTD about the Boe line:

"It wasn't exactly planned. I did spend a long time thinking about Jack's immortality, and one day it occured to me there was another immortal character on the show. It made me laugh. To be honest, on the screen, it's couched in terms that are not absolute gospel. There are these spin-off books and comic books, and every now and then I'll see a script for one where they say definitively that he's the Face of Boe, and I always stop those from being printed. I have my own personal theories, but the moment it became very true or very false, the joke dies."

So by the look of things, it's never going to go any further.

Alice's family information - there's not much, but here's what we've had so far.

Weird computers they've got. That shiny writing can't be easy on the eyes!
Jul. 9th, 2009 10:38 am (UTC)
I rather figured that that was what the deal was, but it's nice to see the quote. :) It might just keep me from cringing every time Jack pops up on DW (I much prefer him on TW!).

Oooh, thanks for those - interesting. So Alice wasn't her original name... not that name shifts are going to make Jack blink! And the blue-on-black's not the easiest to read, but I started out with a green-on-black Amstrad PCW back in the day, so I've seen worse. Not least because I'm tidying up sequences here and the squiggles are all bloody colour-coded....
Jul. 9th, 2009 02:19 pm (UTC)
Those Amstrad computers were mental! I'm glad I spent my early computing years on a BBC Micro (and a ZX Spectrum). :)

By the way, you might want to be wary in your LiveJournalling for the next day and a bit. DVD.co.uk have already sent out some copies of Children Of Earth to customers, so spoilers are bound to start circulating.
Jul. 9th, 2009 02:33 pm (UTC)
Ah, my early computing years were a Vic20, followed by, I think, an Acorn Electron. But my earliest word-processing machine was that PCW, and mad though it was, it got me through more university essays and bits of fan-writing than I really care to think about! There's a lot to be said for being able to write in your own bedroom in the small hours of the day before deadline.... ;)

Thanks for the heads-up - I will be careful! If current predictions of coffin-bait prove correct, the internet may well collapse under the sheer weight of fannish woe.
Jul. 9th, 2009 10:59 pm (UTC)
The rest of us could write in our bedrooms too - the old-fashioned way! Usually followed by a mad dash for the library as soon as it opened, in order to get everything typed up. Essays and fanfiction, all at the same time.

Happily I never tried to post an essay on the internet, or turn the latest adventure of Methos in to a lecturer to get it marked. Although actually that might have been fun. ;)
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